Interview With Romina Del Monaco

The next few months we’ll be highlighting authors who have published in Culture, Medicine, and Psychiatry.

Romina Del Monaco is a researcher at the National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET) and in the Gino Germani Research Institute, Argentina. Additionally, Romina is also a professor at University of Buenos Aires. Romina has a PhD in Social Sciences (UBA) and a Masters in Social Anthropology (FLACSO). Some of the topics of research include chronic pain, cognitive behavioral therapies, studies of gender and sexuality. 

What is your article “Facing and Overcoming Pain Through Scientific Evidence: The Imperative of Exposure as a Psychological Technique for Cognitive Behavioral Treatments in Buenos Aires, Argentina” about?

The main objective is to analyze cognitive behavioral therapies and their particularities in a country with a strong psychoanalytic presence but, the results of the study show a field of discussion regards scientific knowledge, temporality, biology, gender, and the importance of social and economic transformations and their relation with health system and psychological treatments.

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your research interests.

I have worked as a researcher at the National Scientific and Technical Research Council since 2011 and I have always been interested in medical anthropology and the sociology of health. At first, I researched about chronic pain. I was interested in analyzing narratives about how people who suffer from migraines deal with it in everyday life and how neurologists treat this kind of pain. Then, I started working with psychotherapies, such as cognitive behavioral therapy. I have been studying how they produce specific knowledge, therapeutic intervention techniques, and distinctive treatment features (like temporary nature and duration). At the moment, taking into account social and legal transformations in gender and sexuality (such as gender identity law), I am studying these changes in relation to health institutions and, especially, psychology and psychiatry.

What drew you to this project?

I investigated cognitive behavioral therapies because in the late nineties, they increased their presence in Argentina and, unlike psychoanalysis; they emphasize the importance of scientific knowledge and the duration of therapies. So, taking into account Argentinian tradition in psychoanalytic therapies and the lack of studies in CBT they become an interesting subject to investigate.

What was one of the most interesting findings?

It was very interesting the relationship between social and economic changes and the increase of CBT in Argentina (especially in Buenos Aires).  Also, it was interesting to analyze the narrative differences between cognitive behavioral therapy and psychoanalysis.

What are you reading, listening to, and/or watching right now? (Doesn’t have to be anthropological!)

Now I am reading a book called “Thing We Lost in the Fire” by Mariana Enriquez and I have just finished the last season of True Detective.

If there was one takeaway or action point you hope people will get from your work, what would it be?

I would like to connect with people who read my work and to exchange and discuss medical anthropology in general and the relationship between psychotherapies and gender in each country.   


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Interview With Dovilė Valaitė

The next few months we’ll be highlighting authors who have published in Culture, Medicine, and Psychiatry.

Dr. Dovilė Valaitė received her PhD in Humanities, Ethnology from Vilnius University in 2022. She published two scientific articles and gave presentations at seven scientific conferences on the subject of dissertation “The interaction of traditional religious therapy and Western psychotherapy in Islam: A comparative-anthropological study”. During her doctoral studies, the author completed a research internship in 2019 in Jordan (Yarmouk University).

What is your article “Majnūn or Mental Disorders: Between Cultural Traditions and Western Psychology in Jordan” about?

This article presents the results of a study conducted in Jordan by employing cognitive anthropological method (free listing). The study explores the conceptions of mental disorders and their causes among Muslims in contemporary Jordan. Mental disorders or altered psychological states are prevalent in all populations, regardless of race or ethnic origin, while at the same time, culture also shapes the conceptions of mental disorders. Religion is deeply rooted in the daily life of the Muslim-majority countries, while Arab countries are affected by an ongoing modernization. Thus, the main question discussed in the article, how does the traditional religious conception of mental disorders interact with Western psychological conceptions in contemporary Arab-Muslim society.

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your research interests.

My research interests are cultural psychology, medical anthropology, medical aspects of Islam, inculturation of psychotherapy in Islam, Islamic culture and religion.

What drew you to this project?

My interest in cultural psychology began while living and working in Egypt. There I had the opportunity to experience culture first hand. Inspired by international experience, I decided to continue my studies and began my researches. During doctoral studies at Vilnius University, I interned with Yarmouk University, conducting research on mental health from cultural perspective in Jordan.

What was one of the most interesting findings?

The results of the study revealed a progress in that there, it implies less denial about family difficulties instead of protecting its ‘honor’ at any cost. The social structure in Arab countries strongly supports the collective good over the individual. This is one of the features of interdependent relationship between individuals, family, and groups, which has an influence on mental health.

What are you reading, listening to, and/or watching right now?

I am still working on my research, so I am currently reading one of the latest books in the field of Islamic psychology, Islamic Psychology Around The Globe by Abdallah Rothman and Amber Haque. The book discusses the history, challenges, and prospects of this developing field and illuminate for the broader field of psychology how the Islamic tradition has been integrated into mental health practices in Muslim communities.

If there was one takeaway or action point you hope people will get from your work, what would it be?

The main message I would like to be heard is that mental disorders are diseases like any others and should not be stigmatized. There should be no shame in seeking help from mental health professionals.


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Interview With Giulio Ongaro

The next few months we’ll be highlighting authors who have published in Culture, Medicine, and Psychiatry.

Giulio Ongaro is a Fellow at the Centre for Humanities and Social Sciences at the Southern University of Science and Technology in Shenzhen, China. Additionally, he is a Visiting Fellow at the Department of Anthropology, London School of Economics and a Team member at Program in Placebo Studies at Harvard Medical School. He obtained a PhD in Social Anthropology from the LSE and a MSc in Philosophy of Mind from the University of Edinburgh.

What is your article “Doctors Speak: A Qualitative Study of Physicians’ Prescribing of Antidepressants in Functional Bowel Disorders” about?

The article explores how gastroenterologists in a US hospital prescribe tricyclic antidepressants to treat irritable bowel syndrome and the challenges they face in doing so. IBS is a functional disorder (a chronic condition with no precise pathophysiology) which is often surrounded by stigma. Prescribing low-dose psychiatric medication, albeit proved to be effective, can be stigma-inducing because it potentially hints that the disorder is “all in the head”. To avoid this, physicians gravitate their explanations towards the known neurophysiological mechanisms of action. Though avoiding psychological talk, their engagement with patients is nevertheless sensitive to the psychology of expectations, which they know can powerfully affect clinical outcomes (when realistic). They thus place a lot of effort in building and managing hope in patients. Overall, the study shows how physicians do their best to help under specific cultural assumptions – about mind and body – that make functional disorders so hard to treat within modern medicine. 

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your research interests.

My research lies in the areas of medical anthropology, cross-cultural psychiatry, and healing ritual. As part of my PhD at the LSE, I did long-term ethnographic fieldwork among the Akha people of highland Laos. I researched their shamanic tradition and medical philosophy, focusing on healing efficacy: on how rituals work and how people think they work. Alongside fieldwork, I have conducted research within the science of ‘placebo effects’ and surrounding areas of philosophy of cognitive science and psychiatry. In collaboration with researchers at the Program for Placebo Studies at Harvard Medical School, I have published on the mechanisms of placebo and nocebo effects and on cultural narratives around medicine-taking, including this highlighted article.  

I’m currently on a fellowship at SUSTech in Shenzhen. What’s nice about it is that gives plenty of academic freedom, so I’ve ended up delving into a somewhat disparate set of topics. I’m writing an article on the notion of ‘externalist psychiatry’, one on downward causation in neuroscience, and one on a shamanic movement that took hold in Laos while I was there. I’ve also kept an interest in global history (rekindled recently by the publication of Graeber and Wengrow’s The Dawn of Everything). Trying to bring all these strands together, I am writing a book on the global history of medicine that centres on the epistemic and therapeutic value of animistic healing traditions.   

What drew you to this project?

It was an invitation from Prof. Ted Kaptchuk and his team at the Program of Placebo Studies at Harvard Medical School. The Program investigates ‘placebo effects’ from an interdisciplinary perspective, bridging clinical sciences with social sciences and humanities, so my research interests fitted in quite well. Dr. Sarah Ballou – who shares first-authorship of the article – conducted interviews with physicians at a Boston hospital on various aspects of prescription of tricyclic antidepressants for IBS (as part of a broader project on how physicians approach functional gastrointestinal disorders). Together with Dr. Julia Haas, we analysed the central themes, which touched on the implications of giving physiological and psychological explanations of functional disorder and its treatment. These are also topics that I investigated ethnographically in highland Laos among the Akha. So, the study for me was also interesting from a cross-cultural point of view.  

What was one of the most interesting findings?

It was the care physicians took to avoid stigmatising narratives by centring their explanation on the neurophysiological processes of treatment. For instance, they’d talk about ‘neuromodulators’ rather than ‘antidepressants’; ‘nerve sensitivity in the gut’ rather than psychological factors involved in IBS. All the same, much of their approach showed a deep awareness of the importance of realistic expectations and hope in treatment, i.e., psychological factors. Though it fell outside the scope of the article, to me the fact that these physicians (who are among the best in the country in this field) had to tread so carefully on this complicated mind/body terrain speaks of some theoretical limits inherent to the biomedical approach to functional disorders. I found this interesting comparatively speaking. Many medical traditions around the world (the Akha being one) do afford rich conceptual resources for dealing with disorders that would be diagnosed as ‘functional’ within biomedicine. Typically, they externalise their causes onto the social environment. In so doing, they pre-empt the kind of stigma that the physicians we interviewed actively try to avoid in the clinical encounter. So, as an anthropologist this study was interesting for highlighting the big role played by culturally-specific explanatory frameworks surrounding the treatment of functional conditions.   

What are you reading, listening to, and/or watching right now?

I have been reading Starhawk for a course I am teaching on the anthropology of magic and healing. Fiction, I have just finished A Man’s Place by Annie Ernaux. Having a long commute, I’ve been listening to a fairly random mix of podcasts like Red Medicine, Hermitix, Srsly Wrong, Tides of History, COMPLEXITY and Mad in America. The last movie I watched was The Banshees of Inisherin and the last song played was by Rosalía. 

If there was one takeaway or action point you hope people will get from your work, what would it be?

That the main way to make progress in psychiatry will depend on externalising mental disorders: on casting both the causes and treatment of psychiatric disorders, partly, onto the social environment. This won’t be the consequence of giving up on the brain, but of knowing more about it as an organ of mediation. And that other healing traditions illuminate the kind of social conditions that enable externalisation (though all this is not something I’ve already written; it’s something that will hopefully come out soon). 

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Interview With Ellen E. Kozelka

The next few months we’ll be highlighting authors who have published in Culture, Medicine, and Psychiatry.

Ellen E. Kozelka is an Assistant Professor, Anthropology Department, University of Vermont. She is a psychological/medical anthropologist and Global Mental Health Scholar. Her research focuses on cultural conceptions of mental health and illness, specifically how those conceptions shape both available treatment options and health seeking behaviors for systemically marginalized populations in the US and México.

What is your article “Living the Process: Examining the Continuum of Coercion and Care in Tijuana’s Community-Based Rehabilitation Centers” about?

I explore why researchers must attend to cultural conceptions of health issues that expand beyond biomedical frameworks; doing so gives us the opportunity to understand the different forms of knowledge that aid or harm treatment at the individual level. By exploring one community-based (non-biomedical) treatment center’s institutional position on the therapeutic value of coercion, I highlight a different perspective on addiction’s “root problem” as well as how coercion has been incorporated into the proper method to treat that condition. I then examine several cases in which coercion was effective from women’s own perspectives as well as when it was not, challenging dominant assumptions about experience in coerced care while emphasizing its messy ethical and therapeutic reality. In doing so, I present both a method and justification for Global Mental Health researchers to attend to cultural context in a way that will promote equitable engagement with community partners around best care practices.

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your research interests.

My work examines how structures of inequity shape the formation of, access to, and experience in mental health care systems for marginalized populations in the US and México. I specifically examine why marginalized people seek out novel and “nontraditional” care options to understand how healthcare systems could be made more equitable and welcoming to all.

What drew you to this project?

This article is based on my research in community-based substance use treatment for ethnically Mexican women in the US-MX border zone. Through this work I explored the question: why are there such diverse experiences of treatment and recovery, even within the same community-based therapeutic model? My driving question was straightforward, yet revealed both the complexity and importance of understanding cultural ideas of health and illness, moral ideas of personhood, and the intersection of individual experience with structural forces. My research contributes to the assertion that “addiction” is an individualized biopsychosocial illness, as is the healing process of recovery. As such, available treatment options should be variable enough to match this continuum of experience.

What was one of the most interesting findings?

To me, one of the most interesting elements of this work has been learning the specific reasons why women use drugs, the wide range of reasons and ways they end up in compulsory treatment, and what that tells us about how culture shapes mental health experience for marginalized women in the US and México. By exploring multiple treatment and recovery trajectories, I discuss possibilities for ways to reshape care and contribute to health equity for marginalized women.

What are you reading, listening to, and/or watching right now? 

I currently reading “The Best Minds: A Story of Friendship, Madness, and the Tragedy of Good Intentions” by Jonathan Rosen and watching “Traitors”.

If there was one takeaway or action point you hope people will get from your work, what would it be? 

I hope that my work demonstrates that anthropological methods and attention to cultural context can be used to bridge gaps in understanding about different forms of mental healthcare in ways that foster equitable collaboration, both across academic/professional disciplines and stakeholder groups.

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Interview With Jesse Proudfoot

The next few months we’ll be highlighting authors who have published in Culture, Medicine, and Psychiatry.

Jesse Proudfoot is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Sociology at Durham University. His research focuses on drug use among marginalized and racialized people, the politics of drug policy and treatment, and the relationship between addiction and structural violence.

What is your article “The Dreamwork of the Symptom: Reading Structural Racism and Family History in a Drug Addiction” about?

This article is about the relationship between oppressive social forces and illnesses like drug addiction. It’s common in medical anthropology to argue that seemingly individual illnesses need to be understood as shaped, and often produced, by social forces, but the precise ways that these forces produce illness is difficult to chart in concrete terms. In this article, I try to analyze this process, by looking at the case of one person I interviewed: Leon, an African American man from Chicago who had an addiction to crack cocaine. Drawing on psychoanalysis, and in particular, Freud’s idea of the dreamwork, I attempt to show how latent social forces like structural racism can find expression in symptoms such as drug addiction, but only through the mediation of other proximate layers—in Leon’s case, his complex relationship with his family and his own radical politics.

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your research interests.

I’ve been interested in drug use and addiction since my PhD, which was an ethnographic study of homeless drug users in Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside. I charted their experiences as the neighbourhood underwent rapid changes due to progressive developments in drug policy, as well as gentrification. My earlier work was more concerned with the politics of harm reduction drug policy, but over the years, I’ve become more interested in the broader question of addiction and the subjective experience of people with problematic relationships to substances. I’m most interested in thinking about symptoms—like addiction—as sites of connection between the social, the political, and the subjective.

What drew you to this project?

This research grew out of an 18 month period of fieldwork I conducted in Chicago in 2012-13. I was working in a halfway house for people being released from prison who were struggling with drug addictions. I was struck by the diversity of people’s experiences of addiction, which ranged from what we might call acute self-medication, in order to deal with intolerable life circumstances, to much more complex, unconscious dynamics related to childhood trauma. Having written about these different forms of addiction in an earlier paper (‘Traumatic Landscapes’, 2019), I became interested in understanding what else we can read in addictions and the broader question of how to understand the relationship between politics and symptoms.

What was one of the most interesting findings?

The hook of this paper is that understanding the causes of your illness is not the same as treating it. Critical medical anthropology places a lot of emphasis on the demystification of symptoms, implicitly arguing that by uncovering the social causes of illnesses, we can alleviate them. Even though it now sounds obvious, I was struck during this research by the gap between demystification and therapeutics. My interlocutor Leon had a very well-developed political analysis of his addiction, grounded in critical political economy and anti-racism, and we talked about this often. But these insights failed him where he needed them most, in changing his own relationship to drugs. Making sense of this gap was what prompted me to think more deeply about how we approach the question of demystification.

What are you reading, listening to, and/or watching right now?

I started running last year, which means I’m listening to a lot of podcasts. My current favorites are Know Your Enemy, which is a deep dive into American conservative thought for people on the Left, and Love is the Message by Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert, which is focused on dance music, counterculture, and collective joy—things I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about. The most recent novel I read was A Gate at the Stairs, by Lorrie Moore; a very funny and sad book about going to college, grief, and loss.

If there was one takeaway or action point you hope people will get from your work, what would it be?

The demystification of illness is a complex business and our critical efforts must be attentive to the highly particular ways that people experience and embody those social forces that medical anthropologists are often interested in. As I hope to show in the article, this is essential not only to more accurately theorize illness, but also to help people with addictions to make sense of their lives and navigate their recoveries. Care must be ‘structurally competent’ in Jonathan Metzl and Helena Hansen’s terms, but also—in the spirit of the best traditions within psychoanalysis—grounded in the particularities of life histories.

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Interview With Hanne Apers

The next few months we’ll be highlighting authors who have published in Culture, Medicine, and Psychiatry.

Hanne Apers, a female PhD candidate at the University of Antwerp’s Centre for Population, Family, and Health, specializes in mental health and migration. With a background in psychology and anthropology, she is currently completing her PhD-research on the explanatory models of mental health among East-African migrants in Belgium.

What is your article “Explanatory Models of (Mental) Health Among Sub-Saharan African Migrants in Belgium: A Qualitative Study of Healthcare Professionals’ Perceptions and Practices” about?

This study explores how mental health professionals in Belgium perceive the mental health understandings of their patients with a sub-Saharan African (SSA). 22 professionals were interviewed, including ten who also have a SSA migration background. The study explores three main aspects. Firstly, it examines how professionals perceive their SSA patients’ explanatory models of mental health. Secondly, it investigates the impact of these perceptions on their treatment approaches. Lastly, it considers the influence of professionals’ cultural backgrounds, comparing those with and without an SSA background.

The findings highlight noticeable differences in explanatory models, the main distinction was found in the beliefs about what causes mental health issues. Professionals’ understanding of SSA models affects their treatment practices, those familiar with SSA views faced fewer language and interpretation challenges. Non-migrant professionals emphasized cultural sensitivity and SSA-background professionals adopted an integrated approach. These findings contribute to discussions about what it means to be “culturally competent” in mental health care.

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your research interests.

With a background in psychology and anthropology, my interest lies in exploring how different cultural views on mental health affect how people live, seek and prefer healthcare. As an anthropologist, I focus on qualitative research, favoring participatory, community-based methods to better understand the impact of cultural perspectives on healthcare dynamics.

What drew you to this project?

Numerous barriers and factors continue to hinder migrants’ access to healthcare. My aim was to contribute to lowering these barriers by comprehending the role of cultural understandings and illustrating how the organization of healthcare systems can be adapted to these differing understandings, and contribute to closing the treatment gap.

What was one of the most interesting findings?

The comparison between professionals with and without a similar migration background yielded intriguing insights, advocating for improved representation within healthcare systems.

What are you reading, listening to, and/or watching right now?

The book ‘Crazy Like Us’ by Ethan Watters provides a compelling non-academic exploration of how global mental healthcare is shaped by a prevailing Global North perspective, sometimes with detrimental effects.

If there was one takeaway or action point you hope people will get from your work, what would it be?

I hope to underscore the significance of recognizing cultural understandings and conceptualizations of health. It’s a crucial factor to consider if we aspire to develop and advocate for healthcare approaches that are truly inclusive.

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Interview With Mary Hawk

The next few months we’ll be highlighting authors who have published in Culture, Medicine, and Psychiatry.

Mary Hawk (DrPH) is the LSW professor and chair at the University of Pittsburgh School of Public Health, Department of Behavioral and Community Health Science. Dr. Hawk’s work includes the implementation and assessment of structural interventions to improve health outcomes for oppressed populations and the development of community-engaged approaches to optimize public health. She is co-founder of The Open Door, a harm reduction housing program created to improve health outcomes for chronically homeless people with HIV.

What is your article “Harm Reduction Principles in a Street Medicine Program: A Qualitative Study” about?

In this study we partnered with Operation Safety Net (OSN), a nonprofit that provides street medicine services to rough sleepers – people who are unhoused. We conducted qualitative interviews with OSN providers to pinpoint ways that street medicine differs from other kinds of healthcare and what elements of care were most helpful to patients.  We learned this care is built on relational harm reduction, which centers the patient-provider relationship. Ways that harm reduction played out included meeting patients where there are (both emotionally and practically, in this case on the street), offering genuine concern and dignity to patients, and supporting patients them in non-judgmental ways were found to be important aspects of this work. We hope these findings help others who care for marginalized patients consider how they can engage them in care and bridge them to other healthcare services, and ultimately help expand the field of street medicine.

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your research interests.

I worked in nonprofit settings for many years, mostly providing services to people with HIV (PWH) who experience oppression and marginalization. This community-based work is the foundation of my research. I’m interested in building evidence for community-driven approaches that advance health equity for historically excluded populations.  All my work centers on harm reduction, especially as a relational approach to care, which considers ways that patient-provider relationships can improve care outcomes. At the moment, I am working on a National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH)-funded study that explores the impact of a harm reduction-based financial management intervention on adherence among unstably housed PWH, as well as a National Institute of Drug Abuse-funded study using mixed methods to investigate experiences of stigma in healthcare settings by PWH who use drugs.

What drew you to this project?

Operation Safety Net is an amazing organization.  When we first started meeting with Dr. Jim Withers, who has made an immeasurable impact on rough sleepers and street medicine providers across the world, we had an “aha moment” and realized that an essential piece of his work seemed to be rooted in relational harm reduction. It was exciting to explore these ideas with OSN providers. At the core of relational harm reduction is the idea that all patients are worthy of respect and autonomy, and we really saw that play out with the OSN team.

What was one of the most interesting findings?

In our planning meetings with Dr. Withers and other OSN leadership we could hear the genuine care they have for their patients, but seeing this through the interview data was very compelling. But the loss and grief they experience when their patients die was also clear. We talk about burnout in healthcare, but don’t often think about that in terms of grief experienced by providers.

What are you reading, listening to, and/or watching right now?

I’m right in the middle of “The Call,” an episode of This American Life that details an overdose prevention hotline, which is a great example of how we can show care for people who are too often stigmatized through harm reduction work.  I’m also a diehard Survivor fan!

If there was one takeaway or action point you hope people will get from your work, what would it be?

Humanism is at the heart of harm reduction approaches to care, including street medicine.  Affording people dignity and genuine concern is the jumping off point for engaging anyone in care, but especially those who regularly experience trauma and systematic oppression. It can make all the difference to not only their experiences of care but also their retention in care and, ultimately, clinical outcomes. 

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Interview with Danya Fast

The next few months we’ll be highlighting authors who have published in Culture, Medicine, and Psychiatry.

Danya Fast is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Medicine at the University of British Columbia (UBC) and an Associate Member of UBC’s Department of Anthropology. Her research focuses on tracing the substance use and care trajectories of young people who use drugs in Greater Vancouver, as these individuals navigate ongoing overdose and housing crises. 

What is your article Staying Together No Matter What: Becoming Young Parents on the Streets of Vancouver” about?

Among young people who use drugs and are experiencing poverty and homelessness, pregnancy is often viewed as an event that can meaningfully change their lives. In this way, youth’s perspectives seem to align with those of various healthcare, criminal justice, and child protection professionals. However, in our article we also describe moments when youth’s desires and decision-making are powerfully at odds with the perspectives of these professionals. For example, we describe how youth’s romantic relationships can shape understandings of right and wrong and the decision to “stay together no matter what” during pregnancy and early parenting, clashing with the demands of professionals that young couples separate for periods of time to attend residential drug treatment prior to or following childbirth. The result among young people can be painful and confusing cycles of loss, defeat, and harm. For Indigenous youth, these cycles often extend across generations.

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your research interests.

I am a medical anthropologist who has spent the past 15 years working closely with young people who use drugs in the context of unstable housing and homelessness in Vancouver, Canada. Across this period, I have been interested in how youth’s possibilities unfold through – but also around – an ever burgeoning and contracting care assemblage (to borrow a term from Andrea López) in the city, as individuals engage with, evade, and refuse state-sponsored programs and services. In my new book The Best Place, I trace the affective intensities that animate these moments of engagement, evasion, and refusal, as well as substance use itself.    

What drew you to this project?

Over the past decade and a half, I have worked closely with many young couples who use drugs, and always been eager to undertake a project focused on their perspectives and experiences surrounding pregnancy and early parenting. It was a pleasure to work with my Master’s student and co-author Reith Charlesworth on this project, which incorporated insights from both my own long-term fieldwork and Reith’s Master’s research with a distinct group of young people and couples.

What was one of the most interesting findings?

The most interesting, or perhaps important, finding in my view is how powerfully romantic relationships anchored young people’s moral worlds and decision-making regarding what was right and wrong in particular moments. The imperative to “stay together no matter what” among young couples was so powerful that it almost always overrode even the strongest warnings from social workers, probation officers, and others that youth must separate from each other for periods of time so that custody of a child could be maintained. This mis-match of perspectives was painfully confusing and frustrating for young people, and had heartbreaking consequences.

What are you reading, listening to, and/or watching right now?

Reservation Dogs (Disney+)

Crackdown Podcast

Johnny Appleseed by Joshua Whitehead

Habeas Viscus by Alexander Weheliye

If there was one takeaway or action point you hope people will get from your work, what would it be?

Young people who use drugs are enmeshed in elaborate moral worlds often anchored by relationships to place and to each other. It is critical that programs and services for pregnant and parenting youth are not just focused on reducing risks and harms, but also on supporting young people’s full humanity and desires for love, family, and homemaking.

Thank you for your time!


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Interview with Carina Heckert

The next few months we’ll be highlighting authors who have published in Culture, Medicine, and Psychiatry.

Carina Heckert is an Associate Professor of Anthropology in Department of Sociology and Anthropology at The University of Texas at El Paso. Her research focuses on how policies shape illness experiences and experiences seeking healthcare. Her forthcoming book Birth in Times of Despair: Sociopolitical Crises and Maternal Harm on the US Mexico Border (NYU Press) shows how longstanding unjust immigration, health, and social policies both before and during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic produce various forms of maternal harm in the border region.

What is your article Recalibrating the Scales: Enhancing Ethnographic Uses of Standardized Mental Health Instruments about?

We intended for “Recalibrating the Scales” to serve as a way to think about the ways standardized scales are incorporated into anthropological research. Often, anthropologists use scales as a means to generate quantitative data that facilitates conversations in public health and medicine. Through our own use of scales in multiple projects, we found that how people choose to respond to closed ended questions – which often included detailed elaborations, especially when their response could not fit into the confines of a scale – show that scales have more ethnographic potential than what has typically been recognized. The projects informing this article include the Dallas Translating Affect Project, which documented the emotional trajectories of recovery for survivors of intimate partner violence, and the El Paso Maternal Health and Emotional Distress Study, which explored the emotional experience of pregnancy among first- and second-generation immigrants in the US-Mexico border region.

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your research interests.

I am a medical anthropologist with interests in global health, health policy, immigration, reproductive health, gender, and Latin America. My earlier work focused on experiences of navigating global health HIV programs in Bolivia in the context of a national agenda aimed at decolonizing health services. More recently, my work focuses on pregnancy, birth, and postpartum experiences during a series of overlapping public health and social crises in the US-Mexico border region, including draconian enforcement of immigration policies, a mass shooting, and the COVID-19 pandemic.

What drew you to this project?

This current piece draws from multiple projects, including one that I collaborated on with my graduate mentor, Dr. Nia Parson. For me, this article was a fun way for us to bring together multiple projects that shared common themes related to emotions, immigration, and gender inequities. In both of the projects that we discuss, we incorporated standardized mental health scales as a way to produce quantitative data that we could put into conversation with interview narratives. We quickly noticed that many women were not content with providing a Likert-scale response to questions, and instead often provided detailed responses to closed-ended questions. We decided it was worth exploring the content of these responses and how ethnographers might use scales to actively elicit this complementary narrative data.

What was one of the most interesting findings?

I was initially very surprised that closed ended questions were eliciting details that often did not emerge in the interviews where we were actively soliciting longer detailed responses. As we discuss in the article, at times, simply asking questions in a different way can potentially lead to different ways for people to share their experiences.

What are you reading, listening to, and/or watching right now?

My guilty pleasure is Colombian telenovelas on Netflix. I recently finished watching Season 2 of The Queen of Flow. I’m not happy with how that show ended.

If there was one takeaway or action point you hope people will get from your work, what would it be?

As ethnographers are well aware, our interlocutors often have things to say about the research instruments that we are using. The nature of standardized closed ended scales often makes these comments and mutterings invisible, when they should be treated as ethnographic data in their own right.

Thank you for your time!


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Interview With Neil Armstrong

The next few months we’ll be highlighting authors who have published in Culture, Medicine, and Psychiatry.

Neil Armstrong is a Student Mental Health Research Associate, Kings College London and Fellow in Harris Manchester College at University of Oxford. He has a Bachelor of Arts in Philosophy and Theology. Additionally, he has a Master of Science in Teaching and Doctor of Philosophy in Social Anthropology.

What is your article Is it Still Ok to be Ok? Mental Health Labels as a Campus Technology” about?

Is it Still Ok to be Ok? Mental Health Labels as a Campus Technology is about how students engage with mental health labels in new ways. Our ethnographic data show that although labels can still be a source of stigma, they are also something students use. Labels can facilitate interaction with academics and administrators; be used as a pliable means of negotiating social interaction; be creatively directed towards self-discovery; and can even be a means of promoting sexual capital and of finessing romantic encounters. So rather than being fixed and burdensome, labels emerge as flexible, fluid and contextual. To try to capture the usefulness of labels, we call them ‘campus technologies.’ Our findings give pause to quantitative mental health research that relies on labels having clear and simple meanings. But, equally, concerns about the power of labels to medicalize students also appear undermined.

Tell us a little bit about yourself and your research interests.

I am a medical anthropologist who uses ethnographic methods to make lived experience of mental health problems legible to clinically engaged research.  I am interested in mental health bureaucracy, in particular how ideas like accountability might conflict with care quality. Currently, I am researching student mental health and assessing what it might mean for universities to become compassionate. Collaborative Ethnographic Working in Mental Health was published by Routledge in December 2023.

What drew you to this project?

I became concerned that the social science literature on mental health labels was out of date. Looking around on campus I could see that students engage with labels in creative and productive ways and that the literature had not caught up. The SMarTeN project provided me with an opportunity to work with students to coproduce a paper exploring their experiences with labels and relating this to ideas in the academic literature (https://www.smarten.org.uk/).

What was one of the most interesting findings?

A lot of research into student mental health assumes we can easily understand what people mean when they fill out questionnaires that use mental health labels. Perhaps this was true in the past. But our ethnographic work suggests that today, the meanings of key terms like ‘depression’, ‘anxiety’ and ‘wellbeing’ are not fixed but fluid. Students actively engage with mental health labels to negotiate their life on campus. This suggests we might need to rethink how we conduct research, and particularly our reliance on quantitative data.

What are you reading, listening to, and/or watching right now?

I recently finished John Burnside’s beautiful and heartbreaking memoirs A Lie About My Father and Waking Up in Toytown. I’ve been listening to Blaze Foley and watching Severance.

If there was one takeaway or action point you hope people will get from your work, what would it be?

We need to revisit what we think we know about young people and mental health. Things may not be as they appear.